How? The same way an angel can develop a lust for power as Satan did.
A better question is, how can perfectly created spirit beings deviate so far from God's intended moral code without it being some sort of major flaw in his creation?
the nephilim account in genesis is utterly ridiculous when you consider that angels are sex-less beings and would therefore lack sex-drive and romantic attraction.
think of how difficult it is for humans with a sex drive to be sexually attracted to animals.
now take away that sex drive and it becomes literally impossible.
How? The same way an angel can develop a lust for power as Satan did.
A better question is, how can perfectly created spirit beings deviate so far from God's intended moral code without it being some sort of major flaw in his creation?
so a week or so ago we received an invitation for a jw friend's wedding anniversary party in the mail.it was addressed to 'the andersen family' (and not just mrs. andersen & baby andersen) which was pleasant of course, but not a huge surprise given the type of person who said friend is.. however, i already prepared myself to be uninvited after all.
some time ago, there was a congregation farewell party/get-together.to my surprise, i was invited too!
an elder specifically came over to my house to tell me.then some weeks later, he visited again, being terribly sorry but the invitation was revoked as the congregation got concerned over my possible presence.. with that debacle in mind, i wasn't surprised to receive a message from my friend 'hey are you at home?
Same thing happened to me and my wife a couple months back. My brother and his now wife decided to throw an engagement party. We were directly invited by him, face-to-face.
When the week of the party came around, we texted my mom for details (time and place). That's when we were told we were no longer invited. No explanation was given, but we both knew. They wanted it to be a JW-only affair.
my brother got remarried to his ex-wife over the weekend.
they had been married for 15 years, but divorced in 2011. they decided to give it another try, because they have 3 kids together, and the dating pool is very thin for jws in their 30's and 40's.
we didn't want to attend, but since i was invited, and they were kind enough to attend our wedding, we decided to suck it up.. the most interesting part was the way my wife responded to the whole ordeal.
but were the grounds for the original divorce Scriptural?
Without going into too much detail, yes.
my brother got remarried to his ex-wife over the weekend.
they had been married for 15 years, but divorced in 2011. they decided to give it another try, because they have 3 kids together, and the dating pool is very thin for jws in their 30's and 40's.
we didn't want to attend, but since i was invited, and they were kind enough to attend our wedding, we decided to suck it up.. the most interesting part was the way my wife responded to the whole ordeal.
My brother got remarried to his ex-wife over the weekend. They had been married for 15 years, but divorced in 2011. They decided to give it another try, because they have 3 kids together, and the dating pool is very thin for JWs in their 30's and 40's. We didn't want to attend, but since I was invited, and they were kind enough to attend our wedding, we decided to suck it up.
The most interesting part was the way my wife responded to the whole ordeal. There's nothing like gauging the reaction of an outsider to reinforce how cultish it all was.
The first thing was the love-bombing. She didn't mind that so much, except for one elder, who had been the PO when I attended. She said he gave off a "creepy" vibe. I told her to trust her instinct on that one.
She also found it amusing how many times the speaker used the phrase "Jehovah God" during the talk. It must have been 10 to 20 times.
She was most put off by the whole subjection of women aspect that was repeated throughout the talk. I'll never forget the 'WTF' look she gave me when the speaker referred to wives as "precious possessions".
has anyone else heard of these situations with congregations and halls in your area?
i thought the ground breaking mandatory pledge a little while ago was to keep up with "immense" growth?
how soon they forget... looks really bleak for the future of the wbats, the jw gravy train seems to be coming to a slow and agonizing yet inevitable stop.
Happened to the neighboring congregation of where I used to attend. That congregation was split between ours and their neighbors to the south, depending on where the person lived. The reason I heard was that they couldn't get enough qualified men to serve as elders, though I have my doubts.
1970 - there was a local drag strip a few miles away from the hall rented for the circuit assembly.
i was 18 , tim o. was 16 and wayne d. was 18. wayne had a 1955 chevy 4 door, 6 cylinder and fresh paint job.
tim had his dad'ss 1965 chevy half ton.
don't post much lately, but wondering what folks are watching.
i'm enjoying the heck out of "penny dreadful", "outlander", and "grace and frankie".
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Game of Thrones and Walking Dead are the only must see TV for me.
I have checked out Grace and Frankie on Netflix, but only because my wife likes it. Not my cup of tea, but the writing and acting are good.
I enjoyed the first couple of seasons of House of Cards, but I kind of lost interest partway through season 3.
what a shock to hear that news.
her passing so close to that of her daughter dying ?
so, so, sad.. sorry glenster i thought she deserved a thread of her own also..
Also may of these stars abused their bodies, and that doesn't help.
Carrie Fisher did so many drugs in the 70's that even John Belushi told her to slow down. That's saying something.
such a sad loss.
she battled bipolar disorder and came back to acting.
then we lost her.
Sad news. I heard she was in stable condition after her heart attack. Must have taken a turn for the worst.
The Star Wars movies were such an integral part of my childhood. Such a loss.
if jws want to inflict shunning on members who want to remain -- knock yourselves out.
but if someone wants to leave - dont believe in an evil almighty god, bible ...or just dont agree with the rules- they should be free to leave- even after being 'disfellowshipped'.
i think it was pre 1980 that you could disassociate yourself without shunning repercussions.
What if you want to shun someone because they're an asshole?
I agree that the WT's shunning policy is inhumane, but there's a lot of grey area when you're talking about the government getting involved.